REMINDER - using bait when fishing

[Stacie Kelsey]

When fishing with bait, all TROUT (except STEELHEAD) equal to or greater than the minimum size are counted as part of the daily limit whether kept or released.

Just a reminder for all anglers. Seeing this in my area a lot recently.

stace

['OL GREY DOG]

lolol ok...if i'm fishing with a spinner/spoon/lure ect and add either scent or some lil piece of attractant...i'm fishing with bait right ?

[spokey9]

gotta a question bout that. if i have my 2 trout over 15 inches in the cooler and i catch another (which i have to release) do that release still count against my limit?

['OL GREY DOG]

and if the plastic wutever i'm fishing with is made with attractant in it or i put some on it ...i'm fishing with bait...plastic worm has to be pure unadulterated plasitc...stuff like gulp is bait right ?

['OL GREY DOG]

here's a good 1 for ya...how about if i'm use'n 2 rods!!???.....1 scented 1 not ?

say i catch 3 fish then change out to all "no scent" baits ???
i heard a war story that a fish cop told i guy "you got scent in the boat ..your fish'n with bait"....????

['OL GREY DOG]

and say i'm fish'n and 1 of the lil buggers (3.5 per pound 1s lets say) is hooked badly and might die and i release it anyways????...still count as 1 of my 5 ???

[G-Man]

I think it bears reminding folks what is considered to be bait.

The regs define it as: Bait, anything that attracts fish or shellfish by scent and/or flavor. This includes any device made of feathers, hair, fiber, wood, metal, glass, cork, leather, rubber, or plastic, which uses scent and/or flavoring to attract fish or wildlife.

Examples of fishing with bait would be:
1. A spoon, plug, spinner, fly etc. smeared with smelly jelly or similar product.
2. Any Powerbait or Gulp! product.
4. Scented plastics of any type.
5. WD-40 or similar product sprayed on your lure.

['OL GREY DOG]

say your fish'n a C&R only selective gear rule lake ???...are there special rules for handling/release'n fish???....what if it's a 5 pounder and is hook'd reallLLL bad...bleed'n like a stuck hog???...still gotta let it go ??...isnt that intentionaly waste'n game ?....
if i'm fish'n a C&R only lake ?? ...still only allowed to catch 5 fish ???

['OL GREY DOG]

it's all sooo cornfuse'n....sry....DOG

[G-Man]

gotta a question bout that. if i have my 2 trout over 15 inches in the cooler and i catch another (which i have to release) do that release still count against my limit?

If you catch a fish that is not equal to the the minimum size and you release it, that fish does not count towards your limit.

[G-Man]

say your fish'n a C&R only selective gear rule lake ???...are there special rules for handling/release'n fish???....what if it's a 5 pounder and is hook'd reallLLL bad...bleed'n like a stuck hog???...still gotta let it go ??...isnt that intentionaly waste'n game ?....
if i'm fish'n a C&R only lake ?? ...still only allowed to catch 5 fish ???

Look now, the regs for selective gear fishing aren't all that confusing. Handling rules require that if you use a net it has to be knotless unless otherwise specified under the special rules of the lake or river you are fishing. And sad as it would be to do so, if you are in a C&R only lake, you need to let that bleeding fish go no matter what. On a C&R lake, there is no limit to the number of fish you may catch and release.

['OL GREY DOG]

ok...i'll buy all that...i'm not all that confused ..but there seems to be a lot of that go'n around....

the 2 pole thing raises questions tho... another troll'n 1...say i have my dodger/squidy thang at 20 ft on 1 side with a lil bit of something for scent...and 30 ft down on the otherside with my giant 2 spoon troll 4ft of leader to my fav trout plug/lure no scent...and i catch 5 fish all on the clean side ?? ...am i done ??....same kinda deal if i tie up and put bait under bobber on 1 side and cast vibrex on the other...5 'n im out ?...

k for the guy ask'n about the "2 over 15" ..i get ya...and yes i think you have to count it....and if u catch 3 more over slot your done....ARRGGG...DOG

[G-Man]

the 2 pole thing raises questions tho... another troll'n 1...say i have my dodger/squidy thang at 20 ft on 1 side with a lil bit of something for scent...and 30 ft down on the otherside with my giant 2 spoon troll 4ft of leader to my fav trout plug/lure no scent...and i catch 5 fish all on the clean side ?? ...am i done ??....same kinda deal if i tie up and put bait under bobber on 1 side and cast vibrex on the other...5 'n im out ?...DOG

I can see this happening if I was anchored and had one rod drowning a worm and casting a lure with the other. To me it seems if you catch the fish on a lure that is not scented or using bait, you may release it and not have it count towards your quota. The point being that fish hooked using bait tend to swallow trhe hook and are more likely to be mortally wounded because of it. Now, that being said, I would pose the question to WDFW enforcement and keep a printed copy of their answer on hand.

[Stacie Kelsey]

gotta a question bout that. if i have my 2 trout over 15 inches in the cooler and i catch another (which i have to release) do that release still count against my limit?

Edited after I re-read your question.

I'm not sure if G-Man's answer is correct actually- I'll ask the Enforcement guys...

[Stacie Kelsey]

the 2 pole thing raises questions tho... another troll'n 1...say i have my dodger/squidy thang at 20 ft on 1 side with a lil bit of something for scent...and 30 ft down on the otherside with my giant 2 spoon troll 4ft of leader to my fav trout plug/lure no scent...and i catch 5 fish all on the clean side ?? ...am i done ??....same kinda deal if i tie up and put bait under bobber on 1 side and cast vibrex on the other...5 'n im out ?...DOG

I can see this happening if I was anchored and had one rod drowning a worm and casting a lure with the other. To me it seems if you catch the fish on a lure that is not scented or using bait, you may release it and not have it count towards your quota. The point being that fish hooked using bait tend to swallow trhe hook and are more likely to be mortally wounded because of it. Now, that being said, I would pose the question to WDFW enforcement and keep a printed copy of their answer on hand.

I will pose this question as well.

stace

[Shad_Eating_Grin]

also a reminder that kokanee are classified in the rules as "trout"

so, when using baits/scent/flavor to catch them, same rule applies with respect to released kokes counting towards the limit. I see postings from guys at various boards talking about catching and releasing a couple dozen kokes, and keeping just the biggest ones

[G-Man]

also a reminder that kokanee are classified in the rules as "trout"

so, when using baits/scent/flavor to catch them, same rule applies with respect to released kokes counting towards the limit. I see postings from guys at various boards talking about catching and releasing a couple dozen kokes, and keeping just the biggest ones

Good point, especially since kokane seem to loose scales, their protective slime and bleed just by looking at them.

['OL GREY DOG]

LOOK...i'm not try'n start a buncha "stuff" with anyone..or insult anyone...or make anyone feel stupid...not try'n to be a smart a#@ or a dumb a%*....not try'n to get a big 'ol fight go'n...so some "OVERLORD" or someone would lock us down....

i think/thought the forum was a place to bounce stuff like this around....dont know if you saw my other post(hahaha) talk'n to Stace...or my dissssgust'n story about the 2 dead limits on the bottom of the lake in front of the guy fish'n with "ARTIFICIAL" BAIT/DOUGH BAIT and looked at me like i was a idiot!!!!....that 1 was so bad that i(be'n a eyes in the woods guy)called dispatch..waited for the county cop to show up..and made a statement..dont know if anything ever came of it...wasnt a gamey in the area...<shrugs>...or noticed a 1/2 doz violations in reports(with pics even) the last few weeks???...just try'n to help...now a story...lolol

bouta guy...was a contractor/builder guy..worked 6 or 7 days a week pretty much 12 months a year...off and on..pretty much most of 30 years...his time off was precious and fishing ended up pretty low on the list...till he got hurt..couldnt work/build, couldnt golf, couldnt wrestle or coach wrestle'n...none of the stuff he loved to do...sooo started fish'n again...and i KNOW for a fact this guy broke allll kinds of rules,killed/caught alll kinds of stuff he shouldnt where he shouldnt have...LORDY...but then i sorta sat the guy down and showed him how sh#* had changed in a few DECADES..he says "i try'd to read that stupid pamphlet..couldnt make no sense of that thing...he stilll gets cornfused (mostly river sections and game mang areas lordy) but he's a lottttt better...the dumb a#$ was me....DOG

[ResQ]

I dont think anyones taking offense Dog. Im pretty sure people who use this forum (so I would like to think) are responsible and read up on the rules and regs BEFORE they fish the lakes/rivers. That is the responsability of hunters and anglers alike. I see things all the time that disgust me. Like how the indians can net everywhere and I find about 200 salmon carcasses (heads and fillets on intact) dumped in the water at the black river boat launch. I did call that in by the way. And to my dismay it is legal for them to do that. There needs to be more threads like this. It clears stuff up and gets the word out. Thanks Stacie.

['OL GREY DOG]

maybe 1 of the "OVERLORDS" or some 1 could slide this down to the trout/kok area...so's a bait/trout fisherperson might be more likely to see it