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Sockeye salmon in lake cle Elum for the first time

Post by nwtoolman » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:18 am

It's going to be the first time in 100 years there will be sockey salmon in lake cle Elum.
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Re: Sockeye salmon in lake cle Elum for the first time

Post by Bodofish » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:57 pm

Nope sorry. They dumped a bunch last year as a test, I wasn't trying and caught a nice 7+ pounder.... Released of course unharmed.
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Post by natetreat » Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:07 pm

They have been dumping them in since 2009, this year they had a significant return. One of these days we may have a fishery, but I doubt it. They're sacred in that lake.

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Post by Mike Carey » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:32 pm

Caught one when we fished it last week . Released also . Targeting the kokanee. Unfortunately we didn't get it on film.
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Post by Bodofish » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:48 am

I think it's an awesome deal! Perhaps they can add to the genetic diversity of the Kokes and make some big ones. I think they're dreaming on any run succeeding until they fix Rosa Dam and the dams at the lakes to provide an alternate path.
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Post by Mike Carey » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:22 pm

Bodofish wrote:I think it's an awesome deal! Perhaps they can add to the genetic diversity of the Kokes and make some big ones. I think they're dreaming on any run succeeding until they fix Rosa Dam and the dams at the lakes to provide an alternate path.
I believe it's the same concept as Baker lake, the fish are trucked around the dams and put into the lakes where there is a combination of natural spawning and also hatchery production. Smolts are then collected and returned downriver from the dams later.
The lake kokanee and the saltwater sockeye would not cross-breed to produce a hybrid fish. (at least I don't think so)
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Post by The Quadfather » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:20 pm

Mike Carey wrote:
Bodofish wrote:I think it's an awesome deal! Perhaps they can add to the genetic diversity of the Kokes and make some big ones. I think they're dreaming on any run succeeding until they fix Rosa Dam and the dams at the lakes to provide an alternate path.
I believe it's the same concept as Baker lake, the fish are trucked around the dams and put into the lakes where there is a combination of natural spawning and also hatchery production. Smolts are then collected and returned downriver from the dams later.
The lake kokanee and the saltwater sockeye would not cross-breed to produce a hybrid fish. (at least I don't think so)
They have built "Salmon habitat" structure on the Lower Cle Elum river in the area of below Suncadia/Ronald. These are very large masses of trees that are woven together with cable, then covered with earth, and even sapling trees growing on top of that. The large mound of earth and trees makes for a slow spot/pool in the river for fish to hold. There are two of these, along with re-routing a some different paths in the main body of the river for slow waterways. I spent a couple weeks ago with my son, climbing around on the log jams, sticking the GoPro down through the logs, filming the hidden depths. Caught some smallish 8" fish that were holding in the pools.
Anyway, all the signage says it's about rebuilding salmon habitat, therefor makes you think there is a plan to have the fish make it up the river and to the lake somehow? Fish ladder? I don't know anything about dams and salmon. I assume that all dams are not built with fish ladders? Maybe they are adding this feature? who knows...

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Post by Mike Carey » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:28 pm

I think capturing and trucking would be far cheaper and no environmental impact issues. Once in the lake the fish can head up into the upper river where the habitat is there for the fish to spawn. But i'm speculating. Anyone know for sure?
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Post by Bodofish » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:11 pm

From what I've gathered from the gammies at Cle Elum, they're trucking them from down stream of Rosa Dam. It makes for a long truck ride to Cle Elum........ They've also trucked kings around Rosa and I know they ran up, how far, no idea and can you keep a King on the Yak??????
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Post by Mike Carey » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:37 am

This explains how it works at Baker Lake:

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Post by Bodofish » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:26 am

Mike Carey wrote:This explains how it works at Baker Lake:


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Post by stryker17 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:41 am

last year was a great year to head up to Cooper River bridge and watch them spawn, the river was alive with them just below the bridge. It was a kick to watch them, we went up several times. Years ago when the Hatchery was new Judy and I put irrigation systems in all of the homes that are there, than in the fall we went back and helped clip fins on the smolt, to be releaced later , they have done a great job..... Also did anyone attend the Salmon Bar-b-q they had? Every year they hold a free lunch and tours at the Hatchery, if not put it on your bucket list.....GREAT...........

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Post by Mike Carey » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:54 am

when is that? We plan another trip or two. Sounds like a fun side trip.
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Post by sickbayer » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:29 pm

Mike Carey wrote:when is that? We plan another trip or two. Sounds like a fun side trip.

I concur, loved to know when that is?

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Re: Sockeye salmon in lake cle Elum for the first time

Post by stryker17 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:50 pm

the bar b q was on the 19th ( last friday ) the spawning I am not sure of but I will keep looking and Post it when they are there..... should be in the next few weeks, as soon as they move up river.........

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